Youtube star Kiro – Ivica Kirin, Croatian minister of interior resignes after very successful Youtube carreer

On July 12th 2005. Mr. Ivica Kirin became Interior Minister in Croatian government and youngest member of Ivo Sanader’s cabinet. While at first very quiet, soon he became noticed in the media with some of his notable remarks such as this one:

Police meddles into some peoples affairs. Paid shipment are siezed. Someone owes money to someone else and murder happens. Mafia murders are results of good police work. (free translation of his statement made in late march 2006 following a mafia type execution in Croatian capital Zagreb)

This is just one of his (now legendary) quotations. In mid november 2006, youtube user “bijesprvi” made his first video mocking mr. Kirin.

“Kiro prosvirao” video clip (translated as “Kiro went nuts”) took Croatia by storm and is now probably most viewed Croatian video on youtube with more then 550.000 views so far (impressive compared to population of Croatia of 4.5 mil). This video was featured on most web portals, in newspapers and magazines and was even broadcasted on national television (on more then one ocassion).Some of the quotes in video clip include:

  • Media can publish anything, I am not saying that they do not publish something truthfull from time to time.
  • Who is going to rule this country if not us?

First video was probably destined to fade away, but few weeks after, mr. Kirin decided to publicly comment it live on TV and at that time he mispronounced Youtube as Jubito (which is basically a play with letters and with enough imagination it reads F*** You in Croatian). Jubito created whole new industry (see Nik Titank mad shop for a whole selection of apparel, underwear, mugs, stationery). His comment resulted in a new video called “Kiro went nuts – Return of the King”, where he said (among other stupidities):

  • They were laughing at me on Jubito
  • I am thankfull to authors of the clip, when I take into account their IQ I am quite pleased that they are pulling out my sentences.
  • There are 26.000 people employed in Interior Ministry, not all of them are daisies.
  • I am educated and academic person, quite contrary to the people who criticize me. Let this people from Jubito show their certificates and diplomas and then we can discuss this.

Second video was shown to 287.000 viewers. In late march 2006 he was questioned in Croatian parliament and this footage was a source for “Kiro went nuts III – Spy who loved me”. This video triggered a ban on mr. Kirins public appearances (as quoted by Feral Tribune and business.hr). On 24th of may 2006, Kirin made a following statement:

I was quite simpatethic to this jubito thing because I thought that this videos were made by young rebels and alternatives, and then we discovered thru our servers that this videos were published by our political opponents SDP. Let them be sure that this is nothing compared to what we are going to expose during our election campaign.

This statement provoked SDP (social democrats) since it implied illegal search for IP addresses of Youtube users in Croatia and in protest they left the parliament session on may 27th 2006. Later on, this subject was discussed in parliament but formal inquiry was never launched (since leading party HDZ of which mr. Kirin is member held majority of the votes). Later on, bijesprvi launched “Kiro went nuts IV – Resurection” as well as series of slightly less popular clips about Ivica Kirin.

As a result, bijesprvi is now most popular Croatian author on youtube with more then three million video clips viewed, 109 created and more then 600 subscribers. Also, according to the polls made by IRI, Ivica Kirin who was barely listed on “most unpopular politicians list” in 2006, was the third most unpopular politician in Croatia in september 2007, his popularity slipped and after parliament elections held in november he did not make it into parliament (he was positioned by his party too low on the list).

Finally, in the long line of stupidities made by mr. Kirin, he was discovered to have been participated in a boar hunt on december 22nd in the company of mr. Mladen Markač who is a war crime suspect and who is on the order of Hague war crime tribunal in house arrest. It is almost beyond belief that person in charge of following court orders from the Hague went to hunt together with a person who is not allowed to move away from the house; to make it more impropable – they took pictures after the hunt, then they emailed this pictures to 87 media outlets in Croatia and abroad. After pictures were published, it was claimed that pictures were made in 2003 or that they were doctored.

Mladen Markač i Ivica Kirin

After seven days of silence from Croatian government, Hague tribunal ordered arrest of mr. Markač and on 29th of december mr. Kirin offered his resignation as “his moral duty after circumstances in which he was found in the case of Mladen Markač”. It is worth noting that his duties as minister are technical at this time, since new government should be formed in first two weeks of january.

Saga about Ivica Kirin is now over and bijesprvi made final video called “And now farewell”.

p.s. this post is a follow-up and epilogue on my previous posts (in english) Ivica Kirin, Croatian story and Croatian parliament in turmoil over YouTube (again!?)

Thought of the day:
Lemony Snicket: Dear reader, there are people in the world who know no misery and woe. And they take comfort in cheerful films about twittering birds and giggling elves. There are people who know that there’s always a mystery to be solved. And they take comfort in researching and writing down any important evidence. But this story is not about such people. This story is about the Baudelaires. And they are the sort of people who know that there’s always something. Something to invent, something to read, something to bite, and something to do, to make a sanctuary, no matter how small. And for this reason, I am happy to say, the Baudelaires were very fortunate indeed.

Kiro prešao milju

Serijal bijesaprvog na temu ministra policije Ivice Kirina, danas poznatijeg kao Kire prije nekoliko dana prešao je milijun pregledavanja i trenutno se nalazi na 1.015.027 (prema jutrošnjem zbrajanju).

Koji je vama Kiro najbolji? Meni je trojka zasada najsmješnija, a dodatni bonus je zato što je ovaj to sve izgovorio u saboru.

Misao dana:
Your intelligence is measured by those around you; if you spend your days with idiots you seal your own fate.

Još malo o alpskim hrvatima

Priča oko dogovaranja Janše i Sanadera se nastavlja. Jučer je izašao jedan novi i daleko detaljniji članak u slovenskom Dnevniku. Kao što znate, osnovna je teza koju je izjavio Anton Rop da su se Janez Janša i Ivo Sanader dogovarali oko incidenata u Piranskom zaljevu. Obojca su navedenu tvrdnju ocijenili kao lažnu, a Ivo (kakav on već je), ubacio je Ropovu tvrdnju u antologiju političke gluposti (koju je već koristio za neke druge slične sive situacije). Bilo bi zanimljivo da se audio zapis negdje pronađe u nekom mp3 obliku.

Tri majmunaOno što je zanimljivo je da Anton Rop nije bilo tko i osim što je bio na poziciji da tako nešto zna, on je i osoba koja je u prošlosti pokazala nekakav integritet. Zanimljivo je i da je Sanader odbacio ideju o razgovorima između njega i Janše, no prihvatio je kao vjerodostojnu informaciju da ga se prisluškivalo. SOVA, slovenska špijunska agencija smije djelovati prema vanjskim prijetnjama sloveniji te je stoga sasvim jasno da je upravo Sanader bio meta prisluškivanja a ne Janša (što mi se čini logičnim).

Da je komunikacija između Janše i Sanadera postojala svjedoči i slijedeća rečenica:

K temu gre dodati še fotografsko dokumentirana srečanja med ljudmi iz Sanaderjevega kroga z ljudmi iz Janševega kroga, ki so jih po naših podatkih leta 2004 naredili agenti Sove. V Sovi so ta srečanja poimenovali kot srečanja kurirjev. Ali so tako obsežne operacije Sove imele ustrezno zakonsko podlago? Anton Rop: “Po mojem vedenju je Sova v času mojega mandata delovala v skladu s svojimi pristojnostmi.”

No najzabavniji je dio s kriptiranim telefonima:

Zanimiv je najnovejši podatek, da je Sova po nastopu sedanje vlade kupila 14 mobilnih telefonov z napravami za kriptiranje glasu, kar zelo otežuje prisluškovanje. Po en takšen telefon so dobili premier Janša in izbrani pomembni ministri, druge pa je Sova obdržala v rezervi. Eden od teh telefonov naj bi v zadnjih dveh letih večkrat deloval na Hrvaškem. Zaradi enakega kriptirnega programa se lahko uporabnik tega telefonskega priključka varno pogovarja z nekaterimi člani slovenske vlade in tudi s premierom Janšo.

Krajnje interesantno, zar ne? ZNA li SE tko je vlasnik slovenskog telefona u Banskim dvorima? I još bolje: Zašto?

In other news:

  • Jučerašnje Otvoreno je bilo krajnje zanimljivo, Polančec je u jednome času ustvrdio kako o cijeloj istrazi u HFPu nije ništa znao, nije smio znati i dobro je da nije znao, da bi pola minute kasnije ustvrdio kako nisu radili smjene u HFPu radi istrage. Moram pregledati snimku da si nacrtam što je on to točno rekao kako bi bolje razumio logičku konstrukciju koju je pokušao upotrijebiti.
  • Zanimljivo je da su i Šuker i Polančec negirali da su znali bilo što (a to me tako podsjetilo na onaj spot sa Zoranom “nemam pojma” Milanovićem), nevjerojatno je da oni dakle pojma nemaju, da se čeka rezultat istrage, da pravna država radi svoje, da… ali je to svejedno trijumf. Dakle, nije sporno da je super što su napokon pohapsili malo ekipe (navodno je jedan od njih vlasnik neke prekrasne zgradice s pripadajućim bazenom u Istri), no imam taj nevjerojatni osjećaj kako sve te istrage uvijek stanu jedan korak prije kraja, imate li i vi sličan osjećaj?
  • Bacite pogled na rezultat Pulsovog istraživanja koje je napravljeno za potrebe jučerašnjeg Otvorenog, rezultati su krajnje zanimljivi.
  • Radi Thompsonova koncerta sada i židovi traže Kirinovu smjenu!? Može li taj čovjek bilo što napraviti kako spada?

Misao dana:
When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; I’m beginning to believe it.

Servisne obavijesti

Nekoliko kratkih, a servisnih;

  1. Jučerašnji tekst Croatian parliament in turmoil over YouTube (again!?) je napisan na engleskom jer je BoingBoing objavio tekst o našem dičnom ministru Ivici Kirinu, pa da ljudi ne bi morali pogađati o čemu se radi, napravio sam summary na engleskom jeziku (iako je kasnije uskočio i reuters i AP). Za one koji žele znati više, boingboing je najveći/najčitaniji blog na svijetu i objava vijesti mi dođe kao malo priznanje. Ovo je drugi puta u mjesec dana da je mrak.org osvanuo na boingboingu.
  2. Raspitao sam se i majce koje su SDPovci nosili su dio Project Sabotage priče, i mislim da se mogu kupiti u jednom od dućana na zagrebačkom Jelačićevom trgu (ima i web shop za vas izvan zagreba) – a ovo je bila totalno besplatna propagandna poruka.
  3. Čitam komentare na jutarnjem i večernjem za jučerašnju SDPovu akciju pa neki spominju kako bi trebalo poštivati dignitet sabora, pokušati ću pronaći slične primjere iz vana da vam dokažem da to uopće nije tako. Parlament je najskuplje i najozbiljnije kazalište u svakoj državi, u njemu se demonstrira politička moć i igraju se igrokazi kojima se to dokazuje. JuBiTo majce su samo instrumental kako bi se ukazao na puno veći problem, jer u svojoj biti, nije problem niti Kirinova optužba, pa čak niti Kirin sam, nego je u pitanju to da ministar jedne ozbiljne države koja teži prema nekom visoko demokratiziranim i uređenom društvenom poretku jednostavno ne smije raditi takve stvari; a ledeni brijeg samo pokazuje Kirina no srž problema je daleko dublji. Da li je rušenje digniteta sabora ako se pojavite u kratkoj majci, ili je vrijeđanje sabora kada vam premijer gleda u lice i laže ili daje obećanje za koje zna da ga ne može ispuniti, kada vam zastupnik kaže kako on nikada ne laže samo ponekada ne govori istinu, ili je to fino odjeveni zastupnik koji prosipa seksističke ili bilo kakve druge uvrede? Da li je važno da u saboru svi budu u opeglanim košuljama i tamnim odijelima, da li se dignitet sabora može svesti na košulju, sako ili kostim? Ja tvrdim da ne!

Misao dana:
I gather, young man, that you wish to be a Member of Parliament. The first lesson that you must learn is, when I call for statistics about the rate of infant mortality, what I want is proof that fewer babies died when I was Prime Minister than when anyone else was Prime Minister. That is a political statistic.